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Autorius:  Edita [ 2009.01.27 16:39 ]
Pranešimo tema:  Peticija dėl buldogų standarto

Kviečiu forumiečius pasirašyti peticiją dėl Anglų buldogų standarto nekeitimo

Autorius:  Alina [ 2009.01.27 19:10 ]
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Mes jau pasirašėm :wink:

Autorius:  Vytautas [ 2009.01.27 22:06 ]
Pranešimo tema:  Re: Peticija dėl buldogų standarto


Autorius:  Edita [ 2009.01.27 22:36 ]
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Autorius:  Vytautas [ 2009.01.28 00:01 ]
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Aš ir esamo standarto nesuprantu. Jame juk nėra aiškių kriterijų arba matų, kuriais remiantis galima būtų vieningai vertinti šunį. Kaip pavyzdys: naudojami tokie apibūdinimai kaip "very high...", "...very broad and square..." (čia iš esamo standarto galvos apibūdinimo):

Skull relatively large in circumference. Viewed from front appears [delete – very] high from corner of lower jaw to apex of skull; also [Delete ‘very’] broad and square.

Ką reiškia "very"? Man very tai tiek ___, o jums gal tiek ____________, o teisėjui ringe dar kitaip...

Dabar pažiūrėkit kaip jie siūlo keisti standartą. Šitus minėtus "very" siūlo naikinti, bet tame pačiame sakinyje įdeda žodį "relatively" (santykinai), o su kontekstu - "santykinai didelė". Santykinai???? Santykinai kam???

O pažiūrėkite į visą siūlomą keisti variantą 8O : http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/2235

Vien tik fairly, relatively, slightly, moderately short, some ir t.t. O topas yra "very slightly" ("Stifles [delete ‘round and’] turned very slightly outwards away from body.") "Labai šiek tiek" - tai čia kiek? :roll:

Autorius:  Vytautas [ 2009.01.28 00:35 ]
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Rusų forume yra įdomi tema apie buldogo evoliuciją. Su nuotraukomis :)

http://www.bulldogss.com/forum/viewtopi ... =36&t=1204

V.

Autorius:  Edita [ 2009.01.29 15:35 ]
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Vytautai, nu yra veislių, aišku, kur su liniuotėm matuoja ringe, bet ne buldogus. Aišku, ribos turi būti - svorio, ūgio. Bet esmė proporcijose, harmonijoje.

Yra tokia knyga Ерусалимскии Е. Л. ЭКСТЕРЬЕР СОБАКИ И ЕГО ОЦЕНКА
Ne apie buldogus, bet paliesti ir jie. Rekomenduočiau pasiskaityt (Beje, interneto platybėse galima pdf failą rasti)

O Chris Thomas knygą "Bulldogs Today" iš kurios dauguma foto skenuotos aš turiu. Labai įdomu foto pasižiūrinėti, teisybė.

Autorius:  jolanta [ 2009.01.29 20:45 ]
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Dar vienas puikus straipsnis rusu kalba.Gal truputi pades susigaudyti kas vyksta ir susidelioti viska i" savas lentyneles"
http://www.bulldogss.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=240

Autorius:  jolanta [ 2009.01.29 20:51 ]
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Kažkaip pas mus, žiūriu, visi tyli, lyg niekas ir nevyktų :roll:
Man tai ispudis toks,kad nelabai kas ir domisi :wink:

Autorius:  BULL [ 2009.01.29 21:21 ]
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Autorius:  Edita [ 2009.03.19 10:48 ]
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Pakeisti pasauliniu mastu mes gal ir nepakeisim, bet savo nuomonę juk galim turėti ir ją išsakyti ir padiskutuoti :wink:

Naujienos iš Didžiosios Britanijos:

PRESS RELEASE

Four delegates from the Breed Council, Vicky Collins-Nattrass, Peter Janes MRCVS, Norman Davis and Chris Thomas, met with representatives of the Kennel Club on Tuesday 17th March to discuss the proposed changes to the Bulldog breed standard.

The sub-committee we met consisted of Dr. Ruth Barbour (chair), Prof. Crispin, Dr. Jeff. Sampson, Mr. Frank Kane , Mr. Bill Lambert and Mrs. Meg Purnell-Carpenter.

Before the meeting convened the chairman explained that no final decision would be made at this meeting regarding changes to the standard but this meeting was to give us an opportunity to put forward our case for reinstating wording to the standard that we felt to be fundamental.

The chairman also stated that as a result of our meeting their sub-committee would be better placed to explain our point if view to ‘the powers that be’. I believe we were all a little surprised by this, as we had erroneously believed that the final decision regarding the standard would be made by the sub-committee we were meeting. We had hoped to have some indication, by the end of the meeting, what amendments to the interim standard would be acceptable, but this was not to be the case.

We proceeded with the meeting as planned and went through the standard item by item, discussing each of the changes made by the KC with a detailed explanation as to why we felt these unnecessary and how they would have no impact on the health of the bulldog.

The panel listened to our reasoning for the reinstatement of wording we felt imperative to the description of the bulldog and during the 2 ½ hour meeting the sub-committee asked questions on all aspects of the breed, especially health.

They wanted to know in depth how many bulldogs had gone through the health scheme and, of course, Vicky had all of these facts and figures at her fingertips, (I believe it is currently around 500). The chairman congratulated the Breed Council on its work in this area and this was seconded by the other panel members. Peter dispelled some of the myths surrounding the breed and its supposed health problems and Vicky was able to give the results of our own health survey which supported Peter’s comments, which helped enormously.

Norman and I spoke on behalf of the alterations to the standard and we explained in detail why we felt it imperative that essential wording that has been removed from the standard be reinstated.

At the end of the meeting Dr Barbour thanked us for attending and also for the packs we had supplied for each member of the sub-committee containing line drawings, copies of the standard before and after change, etc. which we hope assisted in trying to explain why bulldoggers are so passionate when it comes to our breed standard.


Chris Thomas.

Press Officer Bulldog Breed Council.

Autorius:  BULL [ 2009.03.19 11:00 ]
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Gal koki glausta vertima butu galima :?:

Autorius:  Edita [ 2009.03.19 12:53 ]
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Trumpai:

Bulldog Breed Council (BC) atstovai buvo susitikę su Kennel Club (KC) atstovais diskusijai apie standarto pakeitimus. KC atstovai informavo jog šiame susitikime dar nebus priimami galutiniai sprendimai. Buvo diskutuojama dėl kiekvieno standarto punkto, pakeitimų įtakos buldogų sveikatai. BC atstovai pateikė argumentus, kodėl nereikia keisti standarto. KC atstovams pateikta BC projekto - sveikatos tyrimo, kuriame jau dalyvavo apie 500 buldogų, medžiaga. Piešiniai, kaip pagal standartą turi atrodyti buldogas prieš ir po pakeitimų.

Autorius:  BULL [ 2009.03.19 14:01 ]
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Dekui.

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